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Disney Thinks Photographers Are Terrorists

One of the things I’ve always admired about Walt Disney World is that it always seemed to be very friendly to photographers.  Disney has plenty of interesting photo spots marked in its parks to help visitors know where to get a good perspective for their photos. There are plenty of staff photographers around to capture moments at some of those photo spots, so nobody has to get left out because they’re taking the photo.  If you go on some of Disney’s thrill rides, they have cameras that capture you on the ride, often during the peak of action.

Photography is a hobby of mine.  The various theme parks and tourist attractions offer some rich visual treats that make for great photo subjects.  I was inspired to go shoot high dynamic range (HDR) photos at Downtown Disney tonight by looking at the work of Trey Ratcliff.  He taught a photo workshop in Tampa a couple of months ago and I went to learn his techniques.  Trey has some excellent images of Walt Disney World and I wanted to see if I could capture some of that magic.  Seriously, click that link and check out his excellent work.

HDR photography is essentially a product of mixing together multiple photographs of a subject taken at different exposures, from dark to light.  As a result, you end up with a photograph that has the right level of exposure through-out the scene, much like your human eye would detect.  Cameras, unfortunately, don’t see light the same way we do. In order to make sure those photographs match-up with each other, you take the photos on a tripod in a burst of exposures.

Unfortunately, I found myself on the unsettling end of Disney Security this evening while taking photographs of the House of Blues at Downtown Disney.  While taking photos, I was approached FOUR times by Disney Security. Every time, they wanted to know why I was taking the photographs and expressed concern that I was with “the media.”  I assured them that this was my hobby and I was taking the photos for personal use and they would go away.  The fourth time was a bit different, though.

Previously, only one security guard would approach me and we’d have the same discussion.  On the fourth and final encounter, I was approached by several guards and their manager, Don.  I don’t know Don’s last name, since Disney only puts first names on their name tags.

I explained to Don that I’d been approached three times previously. He said that he knew. All of those guards worked for him and they had apprised him of their discussions with me.  I asked Don why he approached me and he said that there were complaints about me.  He never said what complaints he’d received, though, and never brought up complaints again.  I struggled to think what I could’ve done to cause complaints.  My photos were of buildings, not people.  I didn’t ask anyone to move or change a thing.  In situations like that, you just sit and wait for the best moment to take your photos.  After all, everyone else has just as much right to be where they want.  One mid-Eastern family asked me to take their picture and I obliged. I kept my tripod near walls or other structures that weren’t in the path of pedestrian traffic.  Basically, I can’t fathom what complaint he may have received.

Don is a bit of a fast talker, but it takes him a long time to get to his point.  He dances around the issue and tells me of his responsibility for security.  He wants information, such as my name, where I work, why I’m taking photos and seems to want assurances that I won’t be using the photos for commercial purposes.

By this time, I’m getting fed up with the interruptions, but I remained calm and polite.  So did Don.  Hoping to show him that I’m not there to cause any problems, I offer up some information in hopes of appeasement.  I shared my first and last name.  I let him know the name of my employer.  I told him the city where I lived.  Bear in mind that I was under absolutely no obligation to provide him with any of this information, but I wanted to be courteous and thought, as with the previous encounters, he’d be satisfied and go away.

In fact, Don told me that he was satisfied that I wasn’t there for commercial purposes.  I explained HDR photography and he said that he had a passing understanding of it.  I showed him examples of my photos, hoping to set his mind at ease that I was just a harmless guy taking pictures of the House of Blues.

That seems to be the turning point.  Don started prodding me for identification while congratulating me on being so cooperative and putting his mind at ease.  At this point, I asked him why he would need my ID.  He expressed concern about my architectural photography possibly being used by terrorists.  He never used the word terrorist, but his implications were unmistakable.

I couldn’t believe it.  I kept my calm demeanor, but I told him that his concerns were nonsense.  Disney is one of the most photographed places on Earth.  You can view the place in great detail from satellite on Google Earth.  There are thousands, if not millions, of pictures of Walt Disney World on the Internet and published in books – many by Disney itself.  It is absolutely ludicrous to think that my photos are going to be the ones that supports terrorism.

Don said he understood all of that, but should the worst happen, they wanted to know who was taking photos.

Suddenly, I’m not a visitor or a guest at Walt Disney World anymore.  I’m suspected of terrorism. He wants to know who to accuse of a horrible crime because of some photographs.  That’s not the Disney experience you see in the commercials.

At this point, I let Don know that I’m not comfortable providing him with more detailed information about me.  He’s never told me where that information will be recorded.  He’s all but directly accused me of being a terrorist and, quite frankly, I don’t see how handing him my driver’s license is going to thwart the terrorist attack he’s generated in his mind.  I told Don, twice during our conversation, that I’ll be happy to leave the property if he feels I’m some sort of threat.  Don tells me that if I don’t provide him with more identification that he’s going to call the Orange County Sheriff’s Office.

It’s frustrating to deal with this kind of mentality.  Photography is not a crime, even on private property. At best, all a security guard can do is ask you to leave the property.  They have no right to tell you that you can’t take photographs, confiscate your camera or other property, or even lay a hand on you.  Fortunately, Don didn’t try anything physical at all. However, his demeanor definitely changed once I declined to give him my license.  His approach changed from the friendly, but concerned security manager into one of threats and intimidation. While he repeatedly told me that he was going to call for a deputy if I didn’t provide my ID, I couldn’t help but wonder exactly what crime he was going to report to the deputies.

My plan for the evening was to shoot my photos and have dinner at House of Blues, but Don had definitely turned me away from wanting to give any business to Disney that night.  I had also planned to renew my Annual Pass to take more HDR shots in the parks, but I can only imagine more intimidation and humiliation from Disney Security as a result.  After roughly twenty minutes of dealing with Don, I told him that I was just going to leave.  He was welcome to walk with me if he was concerned.

Don followed me, as did another uniformed guard, Eugene.  During the walk out to my car, Don was on the phone calling in more guards and, I presume, the Sheriff’s office.  By the time I arrived at my car, at least two more guards swiftly arrived on bicycles, a couple more had walked up, and there was a Disney Security car.

I took my time walking out.  I took my time putting my gear away in the back of my car so he had plenty of time to let the deputy arrive, but I never saw one.  While I packed up my gear, I asked Eugene if this happened often.  He didn’t respond and seemed somewhat uncomfortable.  I mentioned that he probably wasn’t allowed to say anything and he told me that he just preferred not to speak.  That’s understandable, since his boss was right there. Eugene moved from Maryland to Orlando and started working at Disney eleven years ago.  We talked a little about the weather and he mentioned that he liked the cold, but Disney was here.  I can apprecate that Eugene wanted to work there.  Maybe it’s still “magical” for him.

While I was packing up, I overheard Eugene on the phone.  Although I don’t know who was on the other end of the call, I presume he was speaking to someone at the Sheriff’s office.  Don said that he asked for my name and I was unresponsive.  Well, that was a blatant lie and I told him it was untrue.  I reminded him that I’d given him my full name, where I lived and even where I worked.  Don seemed annoyed.  It was bad enough that he lied about that (I understand that lying to the police is a crime), but then a few minutes later he told the same lie again.  Clearly, this guy was working the phone to make me look like as bad as he possibly could.  A few lies here or there were probably OK if it helps catch a terrorist; perhaps that’s how he rationalized it.

Once I closed the car I told them I was ready to leave, unless they planned to detain me against my will.  Don said they wouldn’t do that and I was free to go. He then instructed the several security guards around me to take plenty of pictures and get everything.  I found this somewhat ironic.  I’m sure that I was captured on security video while on-site.  Don’s guards likely took photos of me, my vehicle, my license plate and property.  Then I drove off slowly and a Disney Security car followed me until I left the property.

There were plenty of people at Downtown Disney with cameras, ranging from camera phones to point & click to digital SLRs.  I can only presume I was singled out because I had a DSLR (Nikon D700) on a tripod and took my time taking photographs.  This happened around sunset and I took multiple shots from different angles, watching the light and waiting for crowds to pass.  To the average security guard, I can only presume this makes me “suspicious.”  I find it interesting that Don was concerned about my architectural photography (which really wasn’t the point of my images, but so be it).  If I had been taking pictures of other guests, would he have instead accused me of a sex crime?  I don’t know.

My Disney experience was one of false accusations, threats, intimidation and humiliation.  When a cadre of security guards carefully walks someone out of the park, people look.  They assume the worst about you.  I’ve heard that all Disney cast members are empowered to make sure a guest has a “magical” experience.  That policy must not extend to someone with a camera and a tripod.

Here’s what I’ve learned from the encounter:

  1. Appeasement doesn’t work.  You don’t know what is going to set them off, so it’s best to just stay quiet.
  2. Remain calm & polite. I could’ve become as indignant as I felt, but I think that would’ve just taken me down a more annoying path and I didn’t want to continue ruining what started out as a lovely evening.
  3. Follow-up.  I’ll be writing to Disney management to learn and understand why I was singled-out for harassment and if I should expect such behavior in the future.
  4. Listen.  Better to let them reveal information and intent than for me to share information.  See #1.
  5. Share.  Ultimately, we need to keep this message alive.  Harassment of photographers is not providing any security.  If there’s someone out there with ill intent toward Disney, they aren’t going to go out with an expensive camera and a tripod to draw attention to themselves.  They’ll show up with some buddies or a family to look things over.  There’s no indication at all photography was used in any other high profile attack, so they probably won’t even have a camera.  If we’re going to stop this asinine behavior from the security industry, we need to continue communicating about the stupidity of their actions.

On the bright side, I was treated very well at Portofino Bay.  Dinner at Mama Della’s was outstanding.

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  • Joe

    Honestly?! People take pictures in every disney park like that. I go to WDW every year and see photographers there like you, who just do this as a hobby. I dont know when this happened, but i wish you the best of luck

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  • Concerned Photographer

    Very uncool if this story pans out.

    Very unacceptable.

    First, lying to the police that you didn’t give your name and yet you did, is in itself a crime and it is illegal. Disney security’s manager “Don” should be checked in for his integrity.

    Second, usurping your power to show you can call other minions typically is expected in middle school like you want to gang up on the new kid. A “manager” is expected to lead by example and this was a far cry from a good example.

    Two things should happen from here:

    1. Contact Disney executives telling them this is unacceptable for the security manager at Downtown Disney, “Don”, to be lying to the police and being a bad example to his team. [wdw.guest.communications@disneyworld.com]

    2. Contact the sheriff department regarding this incident and file a civilian complaint, stating that we want them to understand Downtown Disney’s security manager “Don” and his reaction was unacceptable when someone was simply taking photographs for his personal use. He was not doing anything illegal and lied about an incident that the photographer did not give his name. We want the Orange County Sheriff’s Office to understand that we don’t want our taxpayers money to be used against free speech and we don’t want our money to support any private power trips of Downtown Disney’s security manager, “Don”.

    Contact form here: http://www.ocso.com/ContactOCSO/tabid/160/Default.aspx

    Phone:
    407-254-7000

  • ted

    My wife of Asian ancestry wants to see Disneyland but we will boycott the one in Anaheim, CA if that’s the way they treat photographers of any sort. Is Disneyworld in Orlando,FL any different? My wife loves to take pictures to show our granddaughter.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      This happened in Orlando, not in Anaheim. At this time, I don’t know if this is an isolated incident or not. I never had a problem with photography at Disney before this incident and many others have reported similar positive experiences. A few, however, have shared stories with me of similar events at Disney. It appears to be somewhat inconsistent to me.

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  • http://DLDHistory.com Richard

    I have a story from the other coast..A few years ago I was drove down to Anaheim to visit the Disneyland Resort for 5 days..

    I run a website about the history of Disneyland..When I am in the park I take hundreds of photos (with an average digital camera nothing fancy) some of them will make it to my website..

    On the first 3 days I parked in the parking garage and went into the park and took photos..as I would pass plain clothes security they would talk into their wrists ..but I thought I was just being paranoid they could not be talking about me… at lunch time I would return to my car and have lunch (I refuse to pay the high prices for food in the park) in my car..

    Well on the 4th day I was sitting in my car enjoying a cold sandwich and working on my laptop when 2 security guys rode up on their bicycles and asked nicely what I was doing..I explained about my website and that I was going through the photos I had taken..they were interested so I got out and put my laptop on top of my car and showed them my website..they thought it was great..I asked if there is anything I should do in regard to taking photos inside the park..they said I should just let City Hall know and that should clear me..I thanked them and they went on their way…

    I went in the park and talked to City Hall told them what I was doing (taking photos for my website) they said it was unnecessary to let them know..no problem..I went out and shot lots more photos with no problems…

    On the 5th day I when I parked in the garage I saw the same security guys on bicycles I waved at them.. they came over and asked how things were going with my website very friendly..We talked a bit…I went into the park..I noticed during the night they had erected a new Space Mountain spire soon to become a new sign so I took a couple of photos of it..as I started to turn away I noticed the cast member at the entrance to Space Mountain grab a phone staring at me..I had a feeling he was calling security about me..so I went to a bench and waited… 5 minutes later security showed up..they asked why I was taking photos of the spire..I told them the story about my website ..they took down my name and the name of my website..their excuse was they did not want the new Space Mountain sign to be used in any advertising..off they went..

    At lunchtime I went to my car to have lunch..as I am eating I see the 2 security guards and flag them down ..they said they heard on the radio about my run in with park security..they laughed about it…we joked about me being watched all the time…well they decided to reveal why I was being watched and how to avoid being watched…by the way these security guards are friends to this day and say the system is still in place..hence why I wont reveal their names..they said 4 things triggered them (security) to watch me 1) I am alone 2) Camera 3) Annual Pass 4) My car plates were from out of state…..I told them that makes no sense and they agreed..Think about it other than a person being alone how many people must fit that description from out of state with a camera at a Disney Park … but it is part of the signs the company looks for..I asked them what would make me “invisible” to security they said easy… park off site…bring a friend have your friend stand out of frame and “point the camera at your friend” and you are good to go…

    I drove back from my vacation with a new understanding of Disney Security Tactics…

    PS To anyone that wants to do harm to Disney these are not the only signs that trigger them to watch people..If you are harming Disney they will catch you so don’t!

  • Denise

    We didn’t have any problems with taking photographs at Disneyland 18 months ago but we had problems with what we were told were copyright infringements when my neice wanted to do a Princess dinner for her 21st birthday. She decided that we should dress like princesses for her dinner celebration. We were stopped first and told that we couldn’t wear our dresses on the rides. We assured them that we were going to Ariel’s Grotto for the Princess dinner. We were then stopped by one of the women at the security booth until the uniformed guards could come harrass us. First they tried the “can’t go on the rides” routine that we first encountered and finally after almost 3 hours they told us that their concern was that some of their smaller patrons would confuse us with “their princesses.” We informed them of the fact that their princesses do not wear sparkly eye makeup or have visible tattoos. That was when they said that they only allow children under the age of 10 to dress-up. When we then informed them that some of their shops sell Princess dresses in adult sizes that that seemed like they may be profiting when they wouldn’t allow the adults to wear the dresses that they sold them in their park. My sister was insisting on speaking to someone a little higher up to complain but after 3 hours with no jackets, (as we assumed we would be back at our hotel before it got dark) no dinner and my neice’s birthday all but ruined, we came to the realization that Disney officials didn’t seem to care because they feel anything that they do is right. I will never, ever pay one more dime to this company ever again. I refuse to buy any of their DVD’s, go to any Disney or Disney sponsored movie, buy any Disney merchandise or go to one of their parks. I took my sister and her daughters to try and put a little happiness back into their lives after her husband of 21 years killed himself about 6 months before. It was going to be my neices first birthday since losing her father and I thought that Disneyland would be the perfect place. I wish that I had a picture to post so that everyone could see that we didn’t look at all like any of their Princesses and any young child would not have thought anything of the sort. So much for their copyright infringement excuse. Unfortunately Disney security seems to be the same at all their parks.

    After reading about what happened to you, I wish that I had complained to higher management. I did send a rather scathing review to TripAdvisor and also included my boycott of all things Disney. The hardest part of my boycott is that I love Winnie the Pooh and The Muppets and Disney owns the rights to those too.

    BTW, I heard about your incident on The Travel Insider’s newsletter.

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  • Ivan Chan

    Disney, just like most things American are pure rubbish. the sooner the place goes down the toilet, the better!

  • Matt

    Wanted to thank you for sharing this story. Based on the information you provided I don’t think you did anything wrong. BTW the HDR shot is great :)

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  • Glenn Murdock

    OK – let’s grow up here. Every place has the right to be suspicious and protect the security of the building. By blogging this way, you are just trying to get revenge, which doesn’t say much about your business ethics. Sorry about your luck, but I’d rather Disney protect my security. It’s your hobby, and you need to respect the places and their rules. You should have left when first asked. They shouldn’t have had to approach you 4 times.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Glenn:

      I find nothing unethical about posting my experience here. You seem to be a bit confused as to whether I’m in business or a hobbyist, so let me clear that up for you. My photography is a hobby. That doesn’t mean that I won’t try to make some sales here or there at some point, but that had nothing to do with my trip to Downtown Disney. I wanted to take some HDR photos of the House of Blues, both for the fun of it and as practice.

      I also really don’t buy the argument that hassling photographers does anything at all to enhance security. Don’t take my word for it, though. Read the opinion of a security expert, Bruce Schneier, about the war on photography.

      Finally, I was never asked to leave Downtown Disney. Not once, much less four times. I was never asked to stop taking photographs. Perhaps that part wasn’t clear to you when you read my article. I agree they shouldn’t have approached me four times, though. You would think they’d treat a guest with more respect.

  • william kosturko

    Maybe you should have just listened to security! Some how I feel that some information is missing here! I am sure that all photographers are beautiful people and never bother anyone!!

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      William,

      I listened to Security. What part of the article made you think I wasn’t paying attention? Also, what information do you think is missing?

  • Rizz917

    Before we all draw a conclusion with just one side of this story, let’s remember there are always two sides to a story. Now, the photographer of interest here may have fit a certain profile that Disney security agents are trained to look for. Even the model of camera he was using may have fit that profile. Heck, he may have been wearng a pro Islamic T-shirt, we just don’t know. I have to say though, I find it hard to believe Disney will lock on to a random photographer for absolutely no good reason. There is enormous risk involved with that kind of activity. There is potential for endless litigation, follwed by damaging PR for years to come. Disney is the most family friendly place on the planet, are they really going to risk their reputation like this? Now, I’m not saying thing don’t happen because I know they do but I’m not drawing any conclusions until I know Disney’s side of the story.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Rizz:

      I contacted Disney several times for their side of the story. I received only one reply, which I posted here, as requested by folks who read my initial post. Last night, Trey Ratcliff (StuckInCustoms.com) posted on Twitter that he was in Downtown Disney to photograph a sunset. Next Twitter post was that he had four security guys confronting him. Next post was that his wife and kids arrived, freaking out. Then we learn that Disney called the Deputies to confront him. All of this because a guy with a tripod wanted to take a photograph.

      I would truly love to know Disney’s side of the story as to why they think we’re a security threat. They started off with me about concerns regarding image rights (and I gather something similar happened with Trey), but I’m starting to believe that’s not really the truth of it.

      While I agree with you that this is just bad PR for Disney, they don’t seem concerned about it at all. They continue to hassle photographers at Downtown Disney. If you can find out something regarding Disney’s side of the story that they haven’t shared with me, I would very much like to know about it.

  • Nick

    I understand your upset. And it may of seemed very unfair however, understand it is securities job to notice anything unusual. Typically a normal tourist would snap a off center picture and move on and buy something in the gift shop. it sounds like you were there taking lots of pictures for a long time. because DTD is an open area they are prone to attacks and shady business. also, if you were with the media you would need to go through media relations at disney. i understand you weren’t doing this but they need to make sure everyone is safe and if you let something like that go something bad could happen.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Nick,

      “Something bad could happen.”

      That seems to be the extent of thinking on this issue, and most people accept it. I like to ask, what is going to happen as a result of my photograph? What am I going to capture that isn’t available on Flickr, Google Earth, or even published in Disney’s own books?

      Practical experience shows that “bad” people don’t take pictures for their “bad” activities, but security guards around the world need a “bad” guy to hassle. Why not choose the guy with a camera on a tripod? He looks different than everyone else, so he must be “bad.”

  • Carl

    William – The one thing I don’t understand is your reason given for not showing your ID. It seams that your saying on the one hand it was “ridiculous” for security to think you had any covert intent, yet on the other hand you wouldn’t show your ID because if “something bad happened” you could be blamed? What are the chances? Is that really a valid reason to not comply?

    Like many have stated, we don’t know the other side of the story. I can understand how you might have been offended, but in hindsight it seems it would have been better to just show your ID and put the security manager’s mind at ease… IMHO.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Carl,

      Think this through a bit. What was the security manager going to do with my information? If he wrote it down, how was he going to protect it? A police officer doesn’t even have the authority to demand ID from someone just walking around. When you get pulled over in a vehicle, you have to show your ID to prove that you are licensed to operate a vehicle – not to show ID. As a pedestrian, I was under no such restriction.

      Also, keep in mind the security manager’s intent. He wanted someone to hold accountable for something “bad” that may happen in the future and he was looking at me as that person. Imagine I complied and gave him my ID. Who knows where it’s being kept or how it’s being used? Given some of the recent problems at Disney (e.g., a hotel clerk using guest ID and credit cards for personal gain), why would I trust someone with such sensitive information when I received no benefit at all?

      I was polite, but I asserted my rights. If others would have chosen to give up their rights, that’s their business. It’s untrue that you only heard one side of the story here. As I noted, I asked Don questions, such as why he needed my ID, and I’ve given his responses. If you want to know more, contact Disney and ask for Don.

  • Kelly

    You were singled out because of your dSLR – I’ve been harassed for shooting the Prudential Center, by crazy women who have followed me 1/4of a mile to find a cp to accuse me of trying to take their picture – wouldn’t wast the digital space on her, and other ridiculous situation when I’ve used my Canon 20D. Not a peep with my Sony DSC-N1 points/shoot.
    When the terror comes, it will be with a Casio exlim.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jenna.shumate Jenna Michele Shumate

      “When the terror comes, it will be with a Casio exlim.”
      Hah. Exactly.

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  • Ron C

    If this had happened to me, I would have gone immediately to Guest Relations.

    I think you’re putting way too much faith in what Don said to you. There are a lot of dumb people who think cameras and terrorism go together but I doubt that he’s one of them. I think he was jerking you around.

    For many years until 2008, I lived in Orlando and have a good friend who worked at Disney World Security for 8 or 9 years. He said that sometimes the topic of photographers would come up. Some of them felt that they should be suspicious of people with fancy cameras or lots of equipment being professional photographers but others thought that was ridiculous and they shouldn’t bother people just because they have a nice camera.

    At least one of those security officers you encountered didn’t believe you about being a hobbyist– despite any conversations you had with them– or they wouldn’t have gone to a supervisor. They wanted to make you go away because they suspected you of being a professional photographer. You didn’t get the hint and leave on your own right away so they escalated it. They never thought you were a terrorist. That was a load of garbage they fed you to make you nervous and throw you off balance. The people at Disney World Security are smart enough (well, most of them are) to know that cameras aren’t terrorist threats. As you noted, it’s a well photographed place and your comments to them about that didn’t change the situation because it didn’t really have anything to do with the situation. Unless they are concerned about an immediate danger, they would not confront a suspected terrorist but would discretely contact the authorities and the person would be followed.
    The terrorism thing was an excuse of convenience to harass you and make you go away and not want to come back. How can you defend yourself? By telling them not to be concerned about terrorism? How can you, or any of us, prove that you aren’t a terrorist? It’s a head game they play. A stupid game, for sure, but a game nevertheless. So was insisting on your ID and taking pictures of you leaving and following you out. They believed you were a professional who was lying about being a hobbyist and they wanted you to leave. They got what they wanted.

    Don’t believe everything security people tell you, especially if you are in a confrontational situation. Very often their goal is to manipulate you in the easiest way they can think of. Remember, they deal with lots of people every day and they can be a lot better at this than most people.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Ron,

      I believe pretty much what you wrote. Having discussed it with friends who are both former deputies, they said a lot of what I heard from Disney Security was just made up. As you say, it’s a tactic. Sadly, it’s a stupid tactic that really doesn’t accomplish anything positive for the business that they’re supposed to support. At the time, I wasn’t aware of Guest Relations. Should this ever happen again, I’ll take that advice and visit their office to see what happens.

  • Kirk

    Because of this, we are no longer considering WDW for any events our company sponsors.

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  • http://www.shutterexpressions.net Shutter Expressions

    I’m sorry to hear that happened to you, and sometimes there really is no rhyme or reason for another person’s action. I feel you handled it very well as it could have been worse. Now, I don’t know why you are not considering yourself a professional as from what I saw on your website, you surpass those who charge professional rates. AMAZING!!!

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  • Kyle

    Are you sure you even took photos as I cannot find them anywhere except the painting. :(

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  • TammyNaborsMiddleton

    Beautiful photography!  But everyone should remember – Walt Disney World is PRIVATE PROPERTY.  As a security manager there, for many years, I know that security officers have to right to question any guest, not harrass, but question.  The same right you would have if someone came into your home.  The event of 911, has put high security everywhere for good reason.  Cooperation goes a long way.  And you are correct – it is a beautiful place to photograph.

    • http://www.orlandolocal.com William Beem

      Of course it’s private property.  However, I was NEVER asked to leave.  I was harassed.  The security manager demanded my ID, claiming he needs to know who I am in case something “bad” happens.  What nonsense is that?  If someone else does something “bad”, I’m automatically to blame because I took a photograph?

      The 911 attackers didn’t use photography in the planning of their attacks.  So why are security guards still citing that tired excuse that has absolutely no bearing on protecting property?  It’s a tourist destination.  Plenty of people take pictures and post them online.  There are satellite pictures on Google of the entire property.  A terrorist doesn’t show up with a large camera and a tripod – something that causes him to stand out in a crowd.

      Downtown Disney is a public place.  My home is not a public place.  Comparing the two in that manner isn’t really equivalent.

      However, I was nice.  I cooperated.  I showed them my photos.  That’s when it got WORSE for me.  That’s when Don started making accusations, so I told him I was leaving.  He called up every other available security guard.  I was circled by nearly a dozen Disney guards.  Don told them to make sure they got pictures of me, my car, my tag, etc.  Basically, photos are good for security guards, but not for guests.

      I haven’t patronized Downtown Disney in the past couple of years since this experience, and I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone else.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jenna.shumate Jenna Michele Shumate

    I can attest that this is how it works now. I was photographing the holiday inn directly across the street from universal studios, and during the shoot I went over to the top of the parking lot levels with the gm from the hotel, to shoot the hotel – not universal studios. Within 10 minutes there was a guard on a bike telling us to stop taking images while he called his boss…. the short story is that we were told to leave. The guards weren’t accusing or harassing, but we weren’t even allowed to take photos of another structure from the parking lot!…. that said, shooting at disney boardwalk was not a problem at all. I think certain areas have different security issues?

    • http://www.orlandolocal.com William Beem

      I think you’re right.  A cast member at Animal Kingdom told me the guys at Downtown Disney were probably much more heavy-handed because it’s an “Open” area – meaning there’s no ticket required for entry.  On the other hand, I’ve also shot photos at the Boardwalk without incident.  The only issue I had there was the confusion of the guard when I drove up to the parking lot.  She asked me why I was there and I told her I was going to take some pictures.  She replied that she had NEVER heard of anyone coming there just to take pictures.  I got the feeling she didn’t like the idea at all, but she let me park and that was the end of it.