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Disney Thinks Photographers Are Terrorists

One of the things I’ve always admired about Walt Disney World is that it always seemed to be very friendly to photographers.  Disney has plenty of interesting photo spots marked in its parks to help visitors know where to get a good perspective for their photos. There are plenty of staff photographers around to capture moments at some of those photo spots, so nobody has to get left out because they’re taking the photo.  If you go on some of Disney’s thrill rides, they have cameras that capture you on the ride, often during the peak of action.

Photography is a hobby of mine.  The various theme parks and tourist attractions offer some rich visual treats that make for great photo subjects.  I was inspired to go shoot high dynamic range (HDR) photos at Downtown Disney tonight by looking at the work of Trey Ratcliff.  He taught a photo workshop in Tampa a couple of months ago and I went to learn his techniques.  Trey has some excellent images of Walt Disney World and I wanted to see if I could capture some of that magic.  Seriously, click that link and check out his excellent work.

HDR photography is essentially a product of mixing together multiple photographs of a subject taken at different exposures, from dark to light.  As a result, you end up with a photograph that has the right level of exposure through-out the scene, much like your human eye would detect.  Cameras, unfortunately, don’t see light the same way we do. In order to make sure those photographs match-up with each other, you take the photos on a tripod in a burst of exposures.

Unfortunately, I found myself on the unsettling end of Disney Security this evening while taking photographs of the House of Blues at Downtown Disney.  While taking photos, I was approached FOUR times by Disney Security. Every time, they wanted to know why I was taking the photographs and expressed concern that I was with “the media.”  I assured them that this was my hobby and I was taking the photos for personal use and they would go away.  The fourth time was a bit different, though.

Previously, only one security guard would approach me and we’d have the same discussion.  On the fourth and final encounter, I was approached by several guards and their manager, Don.  I don’t know Don’s last name, since Disney only puts first names on their name tags.

I explained to Don that I’d been approached three times previously. He said that he knew. All of those guards worked for him and they had apprised him of their discussions with me.  I asked Don why he approached me and he said that there were complaints about me.  He never said what complaints he’d received, though, and never brought up complaints again.  I struggled to think what I could’ve done to cause complaints.  My photos were of buildings, not people.  I didn’t ask anyone to move or change a thing.  In situations like that, you just sit and wait for the best moment to take your photos.  After all, everyone else has just as much right to be where they want.  One mid-Eastern family asked me to take their picture and I obliged. I kept my tripod near walls or other structures that weren’t in the path of pedestrian traffic.  Basically, I can’t fathom what complaint he may have received.

Don is a bit of a fast talker, but it takes him a long time to get to his point.  He dances around the issue and tells me of his responsibility for security.  He wants information, such as my name, where I work, why I’m taking photos and seems to want assurances that I won’t be using the photos for commercial purposes.

By this time, I’m getting fed up with the interruptions, but I remained calm and polite.  So did Don.  Hoping to show him that I’m not there to cause any problems, I offer up some information in hopes of appeasement.  I shared my first and last name.  I let him know the name of my employer.  I told him the city where I lived.  Bear in mind that I was under absolutely no obligation to provide him with any of this information, but I wanted to be courteous and thought, as with the previous encounters, he’d be satisfied and go away.

In fact, Don told me that he was satisfied that I wasn’t there for commercial purposes.  I explained HDR photography and he said that he had a passing understanding of it.  I showed him examples of my photos, hoping to set his mind at ease that I was just a harmless guy taking pictures of the House of Blues.

That seems to be the turning point.  Don started prodding me for identification while congratulating me on being so cooperative and putting his mind at ease.  At this point, I asked him why he would need my ID.  He expressed concern about my architectural photography possibly being used by terrorists.  He never used the word terrorist, but his implications were unmistakable.

I couldn’t believe it.  I kept my calm demeanor, but I told him that his concerns were nonsense.  Disney is one of the most photographed places on Earth.  You can view the place in great detail from satellite on Google Earth.  There are thousands, if not millions, of pictures of Walt Disney World on the Internet and published in books – many by Disney itself.  It is absolutely ludicrous to think that my photos are going to be the ones that supports terrorism.

Don said he understood all of that, but should the worst happen, they wanted to know who was taking photos.

Suddenly, I’m not a visitor or a guest at Walt Disney World anymore.  I’m suspected of terrorism. He wants to know who to accuse of a horrible crime because of some photographs.  That’s not the Disney experience you see in the commercials.

At this point, I let Don know that I’m not comfortable providing him with more detailed information about me.  He’s never told me where that information will be recorded.  He’s all but directly accused me of being a terrorist and, quite frankly, I don’t see how handing him my driver’s license is going to thwart the terrorist attack he’s generated in his mind.  I told Don, twice during our conversation, that I’ll be happy to leave the property if he feels I’m some sort of threat.  Don tells me that if I don’t provide him with more identification that he’s going to call the Orange County Sheriff’s Office.

It’s frustrating to deal with this kind of mentality.  Photography is not a crime, even on private property. At best, all a security guard can do is ask you to leave the property.  They have no right to tell you that you can’t take photographs, confiscate your camera or other property, or even lay a hand on you.  Fortunately, Don didn’t try anything physical at all. However, his demeanor definitely changed once I declined to give him my license.  His approach changed from the friendly, but concerned security manager into one of threats and intimidation. While he repeatedly told me that he was going to call for a deputy if I didn’t provide my ID, I couldn’t help but wonder exactly what crime he was going to report to the deputies.

My plan for the evening was to shoot my photos and have dinner at House of Blues, but Don had definitely turned me away from wanting to give any business to Disney that night.  I had also planned to renew my Annual Pass to take more HDR shots in the parks, but I can only imagine more intimidation and humiliation from Disney Security as a result.  After roughly twenty minutes of dealing with Don, I told him that I was just going to leave.  He was welcome to walk with me if he was concerned.

Don followed me, as did another uniformed guard, Eugene.  During the walk out to my car, Don was on the phone calling in more guards and, I presume, the Sheriff’s office.  By the time I arrived at my car, at least two more guards swiftly arrived on bicycles, a couple more had walked up, and there was a Disney Security car.

I took my time walking out.  I took my time putting my gear away in the back of my car so he had plenty of time to let the deputy arrive, but I never saw one.  While I packed up my gear, I asked Eugene if this happened often.  He didn’t respond and seemed somewhat uncomfortable.  I mentioned that he probably wasn’t allowed to say anything and he told me that he just preferred not to speak.  That’s understandable, since his boss was right there. Eugene moved from Maryland to Orlando and started working at Disney eleven years ago.  We talked a little about the weather and he mentioned that he liked the cold, but Disney was here.  I can apprecate that Eugene wanted to work there.  Maybe it’s still “magical” for him.

While I was packing up, I overheard Eugene on the phone.  Although I don’t know who was on the other end of the call, I presume he was speaking to someone at the Sheriff’s office.  Don said that he asked for my name and I was unresponsive.  Well, that was a blatant lie and I told him it was untrue.  I reminded him that I’d given him my full name, where I lived and even where I worked.  Don seemed annoyed.  It was bad enough that he lied about that (I understand that lying to the police is a crime), but then a few minutes later he told the same lie again.  Clearly, this guy was working the phone to make me look like as bad as he possibly could.  A few lies here or there were probably OK if it helps catch a terrorist; perhaps that’s how he rationalized it.

Once I closed the car I told them I was ready to leave, unless they planned to detain me against my will.  Don said they wouldn’t do that and I was free to go. He then instructed the several security guards around me to take plenty of pictures and get everything.  I found this somewhat ironic.  I’m sure that I was captured on security video while on-site.  Don’s guards likely took photos of me, my vehicle, my license plate and property.  Then I drove off slowly and a Disney Security car followed me until I left the property.

There were plenty of people at Downtown Disney with cameras, ranging from camera phones to point & click to digital SLRs.  I can only presume I was singled out because I had a DSLR (Nikon D700) on a tripod and took my time taking photographs.  This happened around sunset and I took multiple shots from different angles, watching the light and waiting for crowds to pass.  To the average security guard, I can only presume this makes me “suspicious.”  I find it interesting that Don was concerned about my architectural photography (which really wasn’t the point of my images, but so be it).  If I had been taking pictures of other guests, would he have instead accused me of a sex crime?  I don’t know.

My Disney experience was one of false accusations, threats, intimidation and humiliation.  When a cadre of security guards carefully walks someone out of the park, people look.  They assume the worst about you.  I’ve heard that all Disney cast members are empowered to make sure a guest has a “magical” experience.  That policy must not extend to someone with a camera and a tripod.

Here’s what I’ve learned from the encounter:

  1. Appeasement doesn’t work.  You don’t know what is going to set them off, so it’s best to just stay quiet.
  2. Remain calm & polite. I could’ve become as indignant as I felt, but I think that would’ve just taken me down a more annoying path and I didn’t want to continue ruining what started out as a lovely evening.
  3. Follow-up.  I’ll be writing to Disney management to learn and understand why I was singled-out for harassment and if I should expect such behavior in the future.
  4. Listen.  Better to let them reveal information and intent than for me to share information.  See #1.
  5. Share.  Ultimately, we need to keep this message alive.  Harassment of photographers is not providing any security.  If there’s someone out there with ill intent toward Disney, they aren’t going to go out with an expensive camera and a tripod to draw attention to themselves.  They’ll show up with some buddies or a family to look things over.  There’s no indication at all photography was used in any other high profile attack, so they probably won’t even have a camera.  If we’re going to stop this asinine behavior from the security industry, we need to continue communicating about the stupidity of their actions.

On the bright side, I was treated very well at Portofino Bay.  Dinner at Mama Della’s was outstanding.

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  • http://www.kellyverdeck.com Kelly Verdeck

    I’m sorry to hear that the madness has spread to WDW, or at least to that particular security crew. I’ve always shook my head at reports that security and authorities hassle photographers because they could somehow be taking pictures for terrorist activities. As if there aren’t already a million photos of every angle of every conceivable civilian target on the Internet! Anyway, I’m sorry you got hassled and I think you handled it as well as you could have. I’d be very interested in an update on what you hear back from management, if anything.

  • http://tjpowell.net T.J. Powell

    I am not happy after reading your post. We are headed to Disney in Florida this summer and I plan on taking my tripod into the parks and other areas. I hope that this is not going to be the new normal for Disney. Please keep us posted on any responses you receive from the Management of Disney!

  • http://www.williambeem.com William

    Thank you, both. It’s my hope that this was an isolated incident. I brought up the fact to Don that Disney was one of the most photographed places on Earth, you could find satellite photos of it all over the Internet, but it changed nothing.

    My only suggestion for either of you is to take your shot and move on before they get suspicious. It’s a shame and a disappointment to find Disney is willing to employ such harassment techniques just because a guest was taking photos.

  • http://www.mclanerieger.com Jan Rieger

    This is outrageous! I hope bloggers pick this up. Sorry you had to go through all that insanity. Simply outrageous.

  • http://www.tkrphoto.com Terry Reinert

    That is ridiculous. You’d think that they deal with photographers enough to know better. It sounds like we should schedule a photowalk in that area and flood the place with DSLR’s. :)

  • David Terry

    Sad. Submitting this to Digg now. I hope Disney hears about this.

  • http://www.anotherpassion.com/ Rasmus

    I would not have been so nice about it. Also, I would not drop it after the fact.

    I hate aggressive wannabe cops, but ultimately they are the responsibility of the company that hires them. In this case Disney.

  • Aaron

    Great post, although i disagree with the statement “They have no right to tell you that you can’t take photographs” Actually, they do, but they’d have to do the same with the hundreds of thousands of other guests as well.

    Let’s just assume Don didn’t make it though the police department. You also never know what kind of things are told the upper upper upper management about “terror alerts.” If they do what they did on your occasion, they look like bullies. If they do nothing and something happens, they look like they didn’t do their job.

    All in all, i’m glad it was you this happened to instead of me.. I’d of ended up in the back of the squad car for sure.. haha

  • http://www.kelvinjay.co.uk/ Kelvin Jay

    Well done for keeping your cool. And thanks for sharing your story. Nice shot too. :-)

  • http://www.cranestudioimaging.com Lisa

    I can’t believe that happened. It must have been a just bad luck and a overly paranoid guard. I have been several time with my canon gear and had some of my larger white L lenses with me and I never had an issue. I mean I had more issues getting my bag through security at the entrances when they want to go through everything and every pocket of my bag and examine the equipment.

    I can’t believe they treated you like this and like a criminal. I doubt a “terrorist” will set up a tripod out in front of the place and snap off photos. Did the guy watch too many episodes of 24. Honestly I would have called the next day to corporate and slowly went up the chain till I got to someone important.

    Lisa

  • Mel Edwards

    I’d be interested in learning any response you have from senior park management on this. It may be they were given some details about suspicious people taking building photos and acted as they did based upon that.
    Either way, it brings to mind the innocent man at the Atlanta Olympics who signaled authorities there was a suspicious black bag. Only after they ruined his life accusing him of being a terrorist did they finally say, “Ooops.”
    Here’s hoping your story has a much happier ending.

  • http://www.disneyfotoblog.com James Chapman

    Thanks so much for writing this great article William!

    Everyone reading William’s article should understand that this is absolutely not an isolated incident, and if you are carrying a tripod of any size, you should definitely be prepared for multiple questions (read 1-5 above).

    As an amateur photographer and Disney enthusiast, I spend 90% of my time while at WDW taking photographs and I always carry my tripod and backpack full of equipment (flash, wide-angle lenses, filters, batteries, etc). I am constantly stopped by both security guards and staff photographers who question why I am taking the photographs, and if I’m a professional photographer. Obviously I’m not shooting for the “family” as I have a DSLR (Canon 50D, 18-200mm) and spend a few minutes setting up almost every shot.

    Most of the time the security guards are fine and after the initial question of “why are you taking this photograph?”, I reply that this is a hobby (exactly as William describes above), and they are satisfied and allow me to continue.

    I have setup in the wee-hours of the morning and taken sunrise shots at Downtown Disney and have closed down Magic Kingdom and Epcot multiple times between 2-3:00 a.m. in the morning and been kindly escorted out by both security and cast members as they watch me snap a few last shots.

    Their BIG issue is taking “guest shots” with cast or costumed members. I found this out a few months back with my own incident, much as William is describing above (except my conversation was with a cast photographer who happened to be in the area), and I DID go straight to customer service management to complain. After 30 minutes of “discussing” the situation (which I really have to hand it to the customer service rep that he did a great job keeping the discussion calm and below a shouting level) I left with this simple understanding…shoot the buildings, parades and fireworks, NOT the customers with the cast members and staff photographers.

    What this all boils down to is money. Disney pays a lot of folks, a lot of money to take photographs for their guests at their parks, and they simply do not like anyone else with a DSLR to make money from their “system”. It’s absolutely that simple. And that’s why those people with DSLRs are asked questions and made to feel anything but like a guest…it’s because you may be the competition…not a terrorist.

    By the way, my website was a Blog about WDW and my family’s vacations. I took everything down after that “discussion”.

    We own DVC property at Animal Kingdom Villas and Bay Lake Towers, visit WDW about 4 times a year and love eating at all of the restaurants, and we have three annual passes. At about 10k a year to Disney, I’d love for Disney to tell me to leave. :) Wizarding World of Harry Potter and Sea World HERE WE COME!

  • Kevin

    Kind of funny, because I’ve already decided that this is the location (Downtown Disney) of where I want to lead a Photowalk when Scott Kelby announces the World Wide Photowalk III.

    I welcome you to join me and 48 other photographers to come photograph Downtown Disney. I hope Don’s working that morning.

  • disneyphotowidow

    we are WDW quite often…quite often 30-45 minutes after parks close with the tripod, big lens & nikon d200. We have never been approached. Hoping this was isolated. U should report him, as it sounds like this is a guy who might be taking his job TOO seriously. I hope you have reported him to rectify this situation.

  • Jon Grant

    Thanks for sharing this story. I am in Disney World with my camera & tripod about 6 days a month… nothing like this has happened yet, but I am almost certain that I will experience something similar before too long. It is a shame. Please keep us posted as to how Disney responds when you contact them.

    On a separate note, I was also at Scott & Trey’s HDR workshop in Tampa. What an incredible weekend that was!

  • Bruce

    I travel to Florida for work and have been to Downtown Disney and caught security guards watching once. I use a basic Canon digital rebel SLR which is by no means a “professional” camera. I have also had someone tell a friend of mine I need to watch my camera in Beverly Hills. I dont think an 18-55mm lens is paparazi by any means. I would recpmmend forwarding this link to Disney guest services and ask if you are going to recieve similiar tratment if you are planning to take pictures.

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  • Susan

    You need to contact the executive offices guest communications office about this. wdw.guest.communications@disneyworld.com
    or
    P.O.Box 10040
    Lake Buena Vista, Fl 32830-0040

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  • Sean

    You were on private property. The owners had the right to ask you for your ID. If you’d shown it instead of copping an attitude you probably would have had an entirely different kind of experience.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Sean,

      You’re correct that I was on private property. The owners have a right to ask for anything they want. I also have a right to ask for anything I want. That doesn’t mean anyone else has an obligation to provide it. Contrary to your comment, I did not cop an attitude. I was calm and polite during the entire ordeal.

      There is a very simple reason why I didn’t provide my ID to Don. He stated that he wanted to know who to find if something happened. Basically, handing over my ID would be like saying “come blame me if something bad happens here.” I’m not dumb enough to volunteer to be blamed for something like that just because I took a picture or because I was standing in private property. I hope you can understand. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment.

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  • Andrea

    My and my friends go to Disneyland all the time. One time even, we hung out in Downtown Disney after the park closed around 8pm. We hung out, taking pictures, and being a nuisance until around 12:30am, when they asked us to leave… not for taking pictures or acting like fools, but because they wanted to clean the streets. So I know this isnt normal behavior for security.

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  • angela dimella

    OMG!! Sounds like the DON I encountered years ago at FW campground!!! He actually followed my son, then 16, around the Fort while he was riding our golf cart. Asked him for ID and what he was doing there. We were camping!! I was right next to him with my 2 younger kids. He asked a hundred dumb questions, asked for my id and followed us back to our campsite. This was BEFORE 911. It was even before the internet was such an easy place. I’m sorry I never placed a complaint. Till this day we call him Deputy Fife, since he was dumber than Barney Fife!

    I also give you credit for remaining so calm. I would have flipped.

  • http://www.TerenceTam.com Terence Tam

    You are on private property – so they do have a right to ask you to leave. That said, if I were harassed like that, as I were leaving, I’d make a point to snap as many pictures (and videos) of the security guards as I can, and plaster them all over the internet, to give them bad publicity.

    Public humiliation and bad publicity is a great tool, and cameras make that easy:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ttstam/2735149598/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/ttstam/3645598828/

  • Dennis

    William,

    I’m sorry you had to go through that. My family and I were at Disneyland last summer and it was a good time. I’ve read a lot of articles recently about photographers being labeled as terrorists. The logic escapes me, as like you said millions of photos of the same places are available on the Web, and Google Earth is a lot more pervasive than one measly photographer with a DSLR on a tripod. ;)

    In your article you state: “They have no right to tell you that you can’t take photographs, confiscate your camera or other property, or even lay a hand on you.” You are mostly right here. Even police officers can’t confiscate your camera/memory card/film without a warrant (unless you’re being arrested). Nor can they tell you to delete photos. That’s called theft and coercion. In fact, if you’re already taken photos they are technically your copyrighted images the instant the shutter releases and are owned by you, whether you’re trespassing or not. They can’t take them away from you. That’s illegal.

    You are wrong in saying they can’t tell you not to take photos. While on private property the owners CAN INDEED tell you that you can’t take photographs. When you’re on private property you are there at the owner’s will. Photographing on public property is another matter entirely. While on public property, if you can see it with your eyes it can be photographed. This includes buildings, people, airports, train depots, etc.

    Also, you are under no obligation whatsoever to supply the rent-a-cops with identification or information of any kind. However, I think your five steps are the right thing to do in those kinds of situations. When a uniformed police officer asks for ID you are required by law to supply it.

    Here’s a link to a document called “The Photographer’s Right.” You may have seen it floating around. It’s got some good information in it regarding photography on public and private property. I keep a couple copies of it in my photo bag.

    http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm

  • Albert Henry Bruton

    What you have experienced is called POWER. Also the very common lack of ability to admit that they are wrong when one finds they have overextended their ability to exert power over someone.
    In short “I can’t back down, and admit I am in the wrong”.
    It’s a simple matter of they can’t accept a loss of face.
    Most people never are afforded the chance to experience the feeling of having power over someone else.
    When someone is given that power, but does not understand how to properly use the power, they will get themselves into a situation where they need to have the ability to simply admit their mistake and walk away.
    Your experience was a perfect example of the results of someone wrongly given power who has no ability to understand it’s proper use, and how to deal properly with their mistaken use of that power.
    “Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely”

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Albert,

      I believe you are correct. As he made his concerns know, I refuted some of them. He wasn’t interested, though. His body language made it clear, in my view, that he just wanted to have my compliance. When he didn’t get it, I think he became more irritated.

  • Gina

    For what it’s worth, I had a similar (yet much shorter) incident at the Disney Store in Florence, Italy two years ago. After shooting a few pics of the store with my humble, standard Olympus camera, I was told not to take any photos, etc. etc. At first I thought that they were joking, but after a minute, I realized that they weren’t. It was all very odd! Because I was a foreigner, I didn’t push the issue. We just left.

  • http://www.ahansendesign.com Adam

    I was shocked to read this. One of my favorite things is to photograph at WDW, in fact I just got back from spending a few days doing just that in March. I have never been to Downtown Disney so maybe rules are different there? I have never been approached by security at any of the four parks or resorts though. I have had guards comment on the amount of gear I bring in when checking my bag – but nothing like this. They are more commenting that I will get good photos and I must really enjoy photography.

    Sorry to hear about the trouble you had – hopefully it is not something that Disney will be starting to do property wide.

  • Wendy

    Obviously a one-sided point of view. You should have just shown your ID. After all, you are a professional photographer, so they had every right to be concerned.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Wendy,

      You are correct that this is a one-sided point of view. After all, it’s my web site. I am not, however, a professional photographer. Whether I was or wasn’t, I am under no obligation to hand over my ID to a security guard. If you come to my house and I say, “show me your ID or I will call the police”, what would you do? My choice was to leave.

      I was never snarky, rude or abusive. Please tell me why they have every right to be concerned.

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  • Andrew

    Tweeted:
    Magic Kingdom not quite so Magical for Photographers Anymore–Disney Thinks Photographers Are Terrorists – http://twitter.com/el_trotamundo/status/12121425199

  • John M

    Just a point of clarification, according to the US Supreme Court, one never has to provide ID to a police officer who requests it. You are required to identify yourself when asked but you do not have to have ID on you nor do you have to provide it when asked.

    Having said that, you may find that the reaction from the the police officer is less than thrilling since most officers will take your refusal to indicate that you are hiding something. Just ask Bob Dylan when he was picked up in California without his ID.

  • Tim

    Oh My God! I had a similar situation downtown LA yesterday, 4-12-10
    I was doing time-lapse photography of clouds. On the side walk, (not private property)4 plain clothes security)approached me, asking me all kinds of questions. Yes, I had a tripod but it was minimally set and I stood in front to take care, no one would walk into it.

    Isn’t great being a photographer, an American these days?
    I thought that only happen to me.

    Thanks for sharing and doing a good job writing what happened to you. Let’s form our own group, it seems to work for everyone else.

  • http://Newwhalom.com Michael

    I have to commend you on your Patience I know I woudl have lost my cool were you didn’t. I love photography and often take Photos on my travels. I am also take my time look for the right shot and do my best to avoid people. I hope this is an isolated incident and you were on the unfortunate end of perhaps a bigger problem not aware of. I have not been to Disney in quite a while I will return some day. I hope I am not greeted with teh same paranoia you were while I’m taking pictures.

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  • http://gerryrosser.wordpress.com gerry rosser

    I’ve taken literally thousands of pictures at WDW, including many hundreds at Downtown Disney. I use a DSLR, and one of my favorite, and earliest, HDR photos is of the front of the House of Blues. No security guard has ever approached me, and many have seen me doing my thing.

    That said, I do not doubt your story a bit. I’ve had people at several places where photography was fairly normal ask me my business. This whole terrorist thing, as applied to ordinary citizens doing ordinary things, is just insane in my view.

    I really like the picture you included with this post.

  • Robert

    My guess would initially have been the tripod, and I avoided taking one for concern of running kids tripping over a leg. I know it can be an insurance issue.

    I used to go there to take pictures all the time. One day with an 8mm, another with a 300mm, I’d use one lens a day and see what I could see.

    One time they said I could not take pictures of people. Another time people were fine to photograph, but I could not take pictures of the rides, especially the gearboxes or controls. Because we all know that Al Qaeda is just waiting to get their hands on the Teacups control panel.

    And yes I too was escorted off property. The fun part was trying to remember where I parked my car and leading guards around in circles. Onlookers must have seen me as some sort of VIP with all my security.

    Remember right after 9/11 the government wanted everyone in America to get their film developed in case anyone had seen anything. I bet it every American took just one picture a day of anything we’d have less issues, not more.

  • David Hobby

    My letter to Disney:

    Dear Disney people;

    All it takes is one, stupid overzealous private security guard who has absolutely no knowledge of peoples’ rights under the first amendment and it makes the whole company look like ignorant thugs.

    In case you are wondering what I am talking about, first reference is here:

    http://williambeem.com/?p=330

    Consumerist.com picked it up — that’s hundreds of thousands of people right there:

    http://consumerist.com/2010/04/beware-if-youre-so-bold-as-to-take-a-camera-to-downtown-disney.html

    I tweeted it from Consumerist (one of *many* I am sure) to 24k+ people:

    http://twitter.com/strobist/status/12113288433

    Used to be, one ignorant rent-a-cop held power over everyone he came in contact with. No the internet has flipped that equation, and one idiot security guard can give your whole company a black eye.

    If you find this uncomfortable, then maybe you should take a moment and explain that a photographer who happens to be using a tripod in one of your parks *might* not be a terrorist. He might be trying to tale a series of photos to combine into one frame to compress the high dynamic range into an interesting photo.

    That’s what one innocent photographer was doing before your guy acted like a thug and repeatedly intimidated him into leaving — photographing him (ironically, dontcha think?) the whole way.

    Disney looks really bad today, to many, many people. This thing could well go much more viral than it has. You might want to consider a public apology to the photographer (top link) your “cast members” screwed over.

    Or maybe you deserve all of this bad PR.

    Sincerely,

    David Hobby
    Columbia, MD

  • http://www.samanthadecker.com Samantha Decker

    I’m highly disappointed to read this. I thought Disney World was the one place on earth where you could bring in a huge camera, a tripod, and a big honkin’ lens and no one would look twice at you. After all ,people do it all the time. This is just absurd. On the plus side, I just discovered your awesome photography! Keep up the great work! =)

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Thanks for the kind words, Samantha.

  • Christopher Stampar

    Really great post. I think you handled the situation extremely well, and did everything you can to assert that photography is not a crime. I’ve certainly experienced situations similar to this, but fortunately not quite as extreme. Great to see you sticking up for all of the photographers and please let us know if Disney responds. Keep up the great work!

  • Rich

    Willaim,
    Oops. Maybe William will want to be careful about what you ‘AIM’ your camera at in the future. The pictures, above, of Mickey rodent and the moped are fantastic! The best I’ve seen in many (of my 70) years.

    I’m curious, did the subject of a possible refund of your admission fee come up? It sure would have if it were me that was asked to leave before I was ready. Also, do you know if any of the other “Guests??” were harassed by ‘Don’ or ‘Eugene’ that day?

    If you come to Las Vegas and take pictures on the Strip you might well receive an offer from one of my fellow VIVA volunteers to take the shot for you. Not everything that happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

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  • Jay

    I just wanted to offer some of my personal insides on this. First as a former long term cast member of a Disney Store and many other retail stores we have always been instructed that there is no be no photo’s taken in the store. With the Disney Store the only exception to this rule is if you received a call from the home office and the photographer must have the written consent with them. This happens for many reasons and the biggest one is competition. Try walking into Wal-mart and making it know to the management that you are going to take random pictures of the store for no reason and see what they say. Now think about the security team and we don’t know who they were acting on. Most people think that Disney owns all the businesses on property and the truth is they don’t. Most of the businesses on the West Side of Downtown Disney are not owned by Disney. The compliant they may have gotten could have been from the House of Blues themselves. It is the duty of the security guard(s) to protect the interest of these businesses. With taking these kinds of photos it is hard to believe that this is a hobby of yours, and in fact you have your own website and thus is more than a hobby and part of your portfolio and income. If you would post your photo of the house of blues on your site that would turn it into a commercial photo that you are making money off of because it is helping you get work. Just like your beautiful photo of Portofino Bay is now a commercial photo adding to your bottom line. I have taken a tripod and camera into the parks many, many times and have never once had a problem, but anyone could tell it was for pure personal use.

    • http://www.williambeem.com William

      Jay,

      I’m not sure how many more times I can say it. I’m not a professional photographer. There is no commercial interest here. Besides, Don’s concern was not about commercialism, but terrorism. You may find it’s hard to believe that this is a hobby, but that doesn’t make it untrue.

      Also, please note that I did not enter any buildings during this visit or attempt to take photos inside. I just wanted to practice some HDR and thought the HOB would be a cool subject.

  • Curt Loghry

    Heading to DW this weekend for the first time.Plan on taking my D700 with a SB900 flash. Thanks for sharing your story,i had no idea photographers were being targeted.

  • Justme

    I am not excusing their behavior but is it possible perhaps that they had recieved a tip or a warning of some possible target at Disney? I am sure Disney is high on the list for those crazies but that they seemed to go so far above and beyond in their pursuit of you makes me think there may have been something more going on.

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  • http://jronaldlee.com James

    I was in an airport yesterday and wanted to take some photos… the entire time I was walking around with my D90, I was waiting for a tap on the shoulder by a TSA official demanding me to erase the card. Instead, I had a nice chat with a TSA officer who pointed out some interesting features that I might want to photograph.

    Strange that the TSA could get it right and Disney could not.